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Channel 4 News - How E-Cigs reduce Harm - blog
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Channel 4 News - How E-Cigs reduce Harm - blog
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How e-cigarettes can reduce the harm caused by smoking

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Channel 4 News have published an article on their blog about electronic cigarettes.

They say "Persuading people to stop smoking is what anti-tobacco groups describe as the holy grail. Yet next week, there will be what amounts to an official acknowledgment that sometimes it is simply impossible to persuade some smokers to quit so, instead, there needs to be harm reduction."

Next week the National Institute of Health and Clinical Excellence (NICE) will publish draft guidance on harm reduction - which will bring e-cigs into the spotlight.

The Channel 4 blog quotes ASH figures that say that 7% of smokers currently use e-cigs, up to 700,000 people.

Quote:Next Monday and Tuesday delegates will converge in London for City Health 2012 – an international conference to look at policy and practice in relation to public health in cities.

And while the conference papers will largely centre on drug and alcohol use, one of the speakers will specifically look at this issue. The abstract even states: “The greatest emerging, but still largely untapped, public health movement in western nations is tobacco harm reduction (THR), the substitution of low-risk tobacco and nicotine products for smoking. ”

Full story here:

http://blogs.channel4.com/victoria-macdo...moking/427


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17/10/12 02:04 PM
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this will be on C4 news tonight btw, between 7-8, Gerry Stimson will be on it.
17/10/12 03:09 PM
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Click Here to view the clip

Very positive i thought.
17/10/12 09:05 PM
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That article can only do us good in my opinion.
17/10/12 09:20 PM
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A + for vaping me thinks Big Grin
It was a very good watch where vaping came across wel

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18/10/12 09:23 AM
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While there are loads of positive messages in that piece I am deeply concerned about 1 aspect.

They are describing vaping as NRT and NRT products are typically subject to medical regulation and require extremely expensive testing. Deflecting the MHRA from classifying vaping products as medicinal in nature a couple of years ago is the only reason we have access to anything other than cigalike devices from a couple of massive players that can afford the testing regimens.

The danger is that if vaping is treated as medicinal ALL devices, e-liquids and atomisers would need the relevant certification to be sold in the UK so the vast majority of the performance kit we use would not be available except via what amounts to smuggling which is of course illegal.
18/10/12 10:01 AM
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I also get a little tired of this nonsense continually purported -

Quote:... but the market is at the moment entirely unregulated...

And what about this -

Quote:... but the jury is out on whether they actually work...

In what way could they possibly think that they don't???

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Quote:The Channel 4 blog quotes ASH figures that say that 7% of smokers currently use e-cigs, up to 700,000 people.

there is a hidden message carried here.. that people who use e cigs are still "smokers".. or how ASH comes to terms with e cigs..

or if you have "quit" smoking via the use of e cigs you havnt "quit" at all you are still a smoker..

but you are right toby.. bullsh-t follows bullhs-t.. at best its less antagonistic bullsh-t but its still bullsh-t.. written by people who havnt much of a clue..

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I think ASH are in a major quandry about ecigs in general as worst case scenario for them it makes them redundant I can see how people are desperate for it to be seen as smoking just so they can carry on the campaign and the cynic in me says some people in nice cushy financial positions find those seats in danger. The more educated and intelligent can see that it's probably the best thing all round in terms of the eradication of ciggarettes.
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its a universal problem for some of them.. they still see the addiction as the illness.. "lesser harm" is basically an admission of defeat.. they have failed in their attempts to "cure" the illness..

coming to terms with the failure wont be easy.. and everyone needs a job even them.. he he

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