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Help us save vaping
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RE: Help us save vaping
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19/02/16 08:06 PM
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RE: Help us save vaping
(02/02/15 10:59 AM)Rachel_TW Wrote:  Today Totally Wicked have launched a website dedicated to our ongoing legal battle.

No matter your opinion on us a company that's not what this is about.

We need your help, not only does the site have all details of the current fight along with legal documentation and up to date news, but a place for you to support the campaign and help us. We need signatures so we can use them when the time comes.

http://article20legalchallenge.com

Help us save vaping for everyone.

Many thanks

Rach.

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19/02/16 10:11 PM
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RE: Help us save vaping
Is this still relevant?.
Thught she ship had sailed and is slowing down to dock ?

17/03/16 12:31 PM
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RE: Help us save vaping
(17/03/16 12:31 PM)hoob Wrote:  Is this still relevant?.
Thught she ship had sailed and is slowing down to dock ?
Me too but signed the petition anyway
17/03/16 03:14 PM
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RE: Help us save vaping
A sterling effort by TW to try and beat the TPD on a technicality!

I think we have to look at the Vaping debate as a concept. We the vapers, see vaping as a huge health benefit, others, our enemies, see it as the devils spawn.

Based on the findings of PHE, it is fair to say that the health policy makers who do not support the stance that PHE have taken, are effectively denying the truth about vaping and promoting a lie, which in turn, when turned into health policy, translates into people dying.

That's not too emotive for anyone, is it? Is it the truth? Is it what you believe to be true?

I think it is true that the TPD translates into bad health policy, which will cause deaths!

Sorry if the following appears as spam but I want to drive the point home that, we need to get some teeth and tell the story like it is, call the spade a spade!

This TPD is legislation designed to protect us not kill us, but killing us is what it will do!

I feel very strongly that we should be holding our politicians to account for not supporting PHE, as they should. Therefore, anything less than accusing them of supporting legislation that will systematically bring about an early death for many addicted tobacco smokers, is mealy-mouthed, innaffective twaddle imho.

The TPD laws will put the vaping world on the backfoot and many long term tobacco smoking addicts will DIE because of it.

Let's take our gloves off, sharpen our spears and get PHE to endorse the following:

Dear politician,

You represent the smokers and vapers that live in your constituency and it is your job to ensure that they, like all your other constituents, are afforded the right to be represented by you. Your primary objective would always be to ensure the safety of your constituents in all the policies you make and at no time would it be right if you endorsed any policy which would result in the harm of any of your constituents.

We, the RCP, PHE, UKTAS etc., are fully supportive of vaping as a means for harm reduction.

Because of what we know, we are saying that you, as a politician, need to consult with us immediately and engage in a strategy to make the UK the leader in the fight against tobacco, the worlds’ biggest, preventable, killer.

We can show you irrefutable evidence that vaping is orders of magnitude safer than tobacco smoking.

It is our belief that if you do not respond to our call to promote vaping, as a means of harm reduction against tobacco smoking, you are effectively denying chronically addicted tobacco smokers a healthier alternative that increases their chances of living longer.

Denying chronically addicted smokers the means to exercise harm reduction through vaping is a retrograde step and we will support the vapers claim that this strategy would definitely result in unnecessary deaths, if supported.

Also, by not listening to the UKTAS, PHE, RCP medical professionals and their views on vaping, you are effectively being negligent and we will support any vapers claims that you are, by default, killing your constituents.

Therefore, we strongly urge you to get on board with UKTAS, PHE, RCP etc. and start supporting a push towards making the UK and hopefully the world a safer place to live.

Yours sincerely,

PHE, RCP, UKTAS etc..
(UK medical professionals collective advocacy for vapers)

......go for the jugular, it's time to fight not f*rt!

I'm a 56 year old vaper and I work as a customer services agent for
a company called Evape
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07/04/16 02:07 PM
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RE: Help us save vaping
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24/11/16 09:31 PM
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Hi all,

I have been vaping for the past three years or so but have never joined a forum before, and even though this post my have been better off in another section, i thought id post here as before now i have been largely ignorant of the proposed, utterly maddening, legislation implemented and proposed regarding our beloved vaping.

How can we, as taxpayers, seriously think that we are governed by logical, intelligent and sane minded people when, upon reading the legislation, and then reading further, the given reasons for said proposed legislation, we can easily see that this is NOT the case.

If eliquid containg nicotine is classified as a "tobacco" product then were does that leave the many hundred of items within our society, and within our daily consumption, that contain nicotine as well. Example, the peppers you have on your pizza, tomatoes, tea, coca cola, the list is huge. Is coca cola going to be classified as a "tobacco" product as well?

Im sure this isnt the first time this has been said, and i dare say it wont be the last, but anyone with half an ounce of common sense can see this legislation is only there to protect the money being made from the tobacco industry and the subsequant money being made by the pharmas, and those ho make the policys are quite happy to sit back and watch the pounds flood in and the people dying!

Alll the evidence regarding the use of ecigs and eliquid is overwhelmingly postive, someone in westminister or brussels must wake up and see the truth and back the use of ecigs and vaping!
28/12/16 10:05 PM
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We have a big thank you for this idiot https://youtu.be/cknGCCG-XKU Anna Soubry, ASH parasites with their evil demean smokers ideology in order to scrounge funding, well it worked soo well to ban Snus they used the same techniques to kill vaping.

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28/12/16 10:50 PM
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(28/12/16 10:50 PM)taffyjock Wrote:  We have a big thank you for this idiot https://youtu.be/cknGCCG-XKU Anna Soubry, ASH parasites with their evil demean smokers ideology in order to scrounge funding, well it worked soo well to ban Snus they used the same techniques to kill vaping.

Just viewed it and well, Hilarious! Yet sad at the same time. Sad that the political arena in this contry has come to this. The woman hasnt got a clue about what she is commenting on, and the idiot sitting next to her might as well have strings attached to his arms and legs, being controlled by a few HOL peers in the upper gallery!
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