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How many coil wraps for a genesis?
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How many coil wraps for a genesis?
Sorry if this is not enough information... let me know.

I just burned 7 meshes, and 17 wires as a newbie with a Diablo Hybris Genesis. I think I can build coils within an hour now Tongue

Can I just ask, what is the difference between say 1 wrap or 10 wraps? To me toking the device what does it mean?

With 3 coils, I feel the vapor kind of burns my throat, not finding it pleasant. Does the amount of coil wraps change the temp of the vapor?

I googled!

Thanks, R!
24/07/13 09:22 PM
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RE: How many coil wraps for a genesis?
With the same wire and wick 1 wrap will be about 10 times as hot as 10 wraps. 10 centimetres of wire will have 10 times the resistance of 1cm (yes 1 know you are never going to use 10 centimetres of wire in a coil, but just to keep the numbers easy). So less coils makes it hotter, more coils makes it cooler.
24/07/13 09:31 PM
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How many coil wraps for a genesis?
It depends on the thickness of your wire, the thinner the wire the higher the resistance. So, for example on my arrow or temon if I do 3 wraps with .2mm kanthal I get a 1.6 ohm coil. For a mechanical mod this should give a reasonable vape at 3.7 to 3.9 volts, can be a little harsh at 4.1 volts on a fresh battery.

Anyways, you have a hybrid, so a mechanical, what's the thickness of your wire? If it's .2 try 3 wrapsvand see how you get on.

Are you properly oxidizing the mesh wick before you wrap the coil?
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RE: How many coil wraps for a genesis?
I'm a fan of the 3/4 wrap with 32 guage kanthal, it seems to work pretty well every time
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RE: How many coil wraps for a genesis?
Could some one please explain, what 3/4 actually means...I know I sound stupid. Is it three complete wraps plus the half turn for the negative and the half turn for the positive?

Just looked at my Diablo and that is what I did with 0.20 and it works a treat...
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RE: How many coil wraps for a genesis?
3/4 wraps has 3 on the side nearest the post and 4 on the side away from it when both connections are on the same side of the wick.
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RE: How many coil wraps for a genesis?
Thanks folks!

Nimbus threw in some wire with a purchase I made, so I am unsure what the wire is in terms of resistance but I think I know what this means.... The greater the resistance, the more the coil heats up??

I was burning the coils with a blowtorch and putting juice on it and burning it and so on. It was far too much effort so I stopped doing that. Tonight I found G(l)ixxer's 1st Jan video where he does not do any of this but just taps the switch on and off until the mesh is oxidized under the coil. Since doing this method, I have found it much better

I just went crazy and did 6-7 coils and finding it just a little too weak in terms of lung sensation although VG juice with 500 mesh is giving me decent vapour production. I might try 5 next!

While I am here, just one more question. VG is thicker right? So does that mean that 500 mesh is not ideal? Should I use a lower mesh count or does this not matter?

Thanks for your knowledge everyone!
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RE: How many coil wraps for a genesis?
More resistance = less heat.

Power = voltage x voltage / resistance

So a higher resistance makes less power.


Yes, thicker liquids wick better with a lower mesh count, I think. But I find that thinning VG liquids to the same consistency as PG lets me use VG liquids in a setup optimized for PG liquids.
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RE: How many coil wraps for a genesis?
(24/07/13 10:20 PM)ronson49 Wrote:  VG is thicker right? So does that mean that 500 mesh is not ideal? Should I use a lower mesh count or does this not matter?

500 lifts everything better, PG or VG. Tilters get on fine with the lower mesh sizes but I prefer to keep that stuff for drippers,

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RE: How many coil wraps for a genesis?
(24/07/13 09:57 PM)Sylvie Wrote:  3/4 wraps has 3 on the side nearest the post and 4 on the side away from it when both connections are on the same side of the wick.

At last I understand, thanks
25/07/13 06:03 AM
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