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Important update from ECITA: legal advice re prospective bans
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Important update from ECITA: legal advice re prospective bans
Hi, all,

We met with the legal team today to discuss our options in the face of the EU proposal, and the imminent MHRA position statement. (We anticipate that the MHRA will announce on the 13th March, rather than waiting until May, because they like to roll the drum on No Smoking Day.)

We discussed all the issues for both UK and EU level. The legal experts reckon we have a strong case, particularly with regard to proportionality, and we shall be getting an official Opinion from a QC in the next couple of weeks. They described the proposed Directive as possibly being 'legally flawed' in several respects, which means we have a good chance of mounting a successful legal challenge.

We shall continue to fire on all cylinders, and will be asking for your help in getting the right messages to the right people in each of your constituencies in the coming weeks. I hope we can count on your support as we all join together for this crucial fight.

This is not an industry fighting for its survival in isolation; this is a fight for every single one of us who has discovered vaping - and it is a fight for our lives. We hope you will join us as we take the fight to them, rather than waiting for them to attack us even further.

Sincere thanks to Elites, not only for providing outstanding Chairmanship of ECITA since its inception in the form of Mike Ryan, but also for providing access to a top notch legal team, with the expertise and skills to bring us ALL safely home - as an industry and as a community of vapers.

We shall keep you informed as things progress, and would be grateful if a moderator could sticky this thread.

Happy and very long-lived vaping, one and all!

Cheers,

Katherine

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Important update from ECITA: legal advice re prospective bans
(14/02/13 10:28 PM)Doodlebug Wrote:  this is a fight for every single one of us who has discovered vaping - and it is a fight for our lives.

Exactly. Keep up the good work, I'll do as much as I possibly can to spread the word.

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RE: Important update from ECITA: legal advice re prospective bans
(14/02/13 10:28 PM)Doodlebug Wrote:  We discussed all the issues for both UK and EU level. The legal experts reckon we have a strong case, particularly with regard to proportionality, and we shall be getting an official Opinion from a QC in the next couple of weeks. They described the proposed Directive as possibly being 'legally flawed' in several respects, which means we have a good chance of mounting a successful legal challenge.

Did our Human Rights play any part in it?

The denial of something far less harmful (if harmful at all) in favour of either the failed NHS NRT or the death sentence of returning to tobacco. (Or should I say in favour of Contracts & Tax - specifically ineffective treatments, tobacco and death generated taxes. Money, the root of all evils.)

(14/02/13 10:28 PM)Doodlebug Wrote:  We shall continue to fire on all cylinders, and will be asking for your help in getting the right messages to the right people in each of your constituencies in the coming weeks. I hope we can count on your support as we all join together for this crucial fight.

100%. Is (or will) there be a template of sorts that I (we) could use to have a consistent/professional letter/email to use for this?
It would be useful if we could have a message to send containing the correct and clearly defined information to our local powers. Something as bullet proof as possible. (Apologies if there is one and I haven't discovered it)

(14/02/13 10:28 PM)Doodlebug Wrote:  This is not an industry fighting for its survival in isolation; this is a fight for every single one of us who has discovered vaping - and it is a fight for our lives. We hope you will join us as we take the fight to them, rather than waiting for them to attack us even further.

100000% Big Grin

Thank you very much indeed for posting this thread and for all your hardwork Doodlebug. It is a very positive and encouraging message.

Thank you again so very much. Big Grin

PS: (Don't laugh too much!!) I actually had a nightmare the other night that all my ejuice was missing due to the proposed ban/regulation. The bottles were all dry and empty. Seriously, no lie, my wife actually woke me up it was that bad! I'd hate to have this right taken away, I've only just discovered it and it's already changed my life and those around me for the better. Quitting altogether just isn't feasible for me. I very rarely drink so this is my only little vice in that respect.
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Great post Doodlebug, thanks for your hard work with regards to this and if there is anything I can do to help Smiling

I enjoy vaping nicotine in the same way I enjoy a coffee. Nicotine doesnt keep me up all night though as wired as caffeine does.
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Indeed to the above. Smiling

.. and finally gives credence to the ciggielike companies that (obviously) want freedom of vaping and e-smoking to prevail...
.. no matter what other snobbery of users of better devices are out there...

Let's just hope that those in power can be swayed for the greater good...

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Sounds promising keep up the good work

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Well done keep it up.

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Nice to see someone "Sticking It To The Man"

Thanks

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Great work Katherine, keep it up lass.
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