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Super Juggernaut Prebuilt Coils
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Super Juggernaut Prebuilt Coils
Hi,

Has anyone had experience of these coils? I just got them on Ebay but they won't fire up on my Eleaf device at any wattage setting, using two li-ion rechargeables (18650 3400mAh 3.7v or similar batts but 2600mAh). I have them in an Azeroth tank. When I try to vape I get a message on the Eleaf "atomizer low". Do I need special batts to fire up these big coils? What?

Thanks for any advice,

Bugsy.
05/01/17 10:32 PM
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RE: Super Juggernaut Prebuilt Coils
You'll need a mod that will allow around 0.1, preferably one that fires at 0.05. Pre-built coils with lots of metal usually require a bit of work to get rid of hot spots and get a good even glow. Until everything's even you can get strange/super low ohm readings... but so long as you're confident that everything is is fine and dandy (no hard shorts anywhere, or dodgy untightened connections), the ohms will go up to 'regular' levels (above 0.1 ohms) once properly installed and pulsed.
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(05/01/17 10:51 PM)stevelauder Wrote:  You'll need a mod that will allow around 0.1, preferably one that fires at 0.05. Pre-built coils with lots of metal usually require a bit of work to get rid of hot spots and get a good even glow. Until everything's even you can get strange/super low ohm readings... but so long as you're confident that everything is is fine and dandy (no hard shorts anywhere, or dodgy untightened connections), the ohms will go up to 'regular' levels (above 0.1 ohms) once properly installed and pulsed.

Can you recommend a good but not too expensive mod which would work well with these type of coils? Thanks.
05/01/17 10:56 PM
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(05/01/17 10:56 PM)Bugsy Wrote:  
(05/01/17 10:51 PM)stevelauder Wrote:  You'll need a mod that will allow around 0.1, preferably one that fires at 0.05. Pre-built coils with lots of metal usually require a bit of work to get rid of hot spots and get a good even glow. Until everything's even you can get strange/super low ohm readings... but so long as you're confident that everything is is fine and dandy (no hard shorts anywhere, or dodgy untightened connections), the ohms will go up to 'regular' levels (above 0.1 ohms) once properly installed and pulsed.

Can you recommend a good but not too expensive mod which would work well with these type of coils? Thanks.

I've got the Juggernauts firing up in my Eleaf now but it only does this with one coil attached to the deck (still pleases!). Also I've ordered some Sony VTC5's which are probably the batteries I need to handle these bigguns. Thanks for the advice Smiling
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RE: Super Juggernaut Prebuilt Coils
The batteries wont allow your mod to fire any lower than the chip is set too. You'll need to get another mod that will fire at lower ohms.

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Aah, get it now, thanks for clarifying. I think I need a more up-to-date mod in anycase so I'll get my research boots on!
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(07/01/17 12:32 PM)Bugsy Wrote:  Aah, get it now, thanks for clarifying. I think I need a more up-to-date mod in anycase so I'll get my research boots on!

The mod must be able to fire the coil, but if you're going high power, make sure you have good, high drain batteries too. What kind of power are you going to be using?
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Singly these are probably going to come in at around 0.15-0.20 per coil before you pinch them and rise to around 0.3. So as a pair 0.1ohms or under which would be a problem?
I occasionally use a homemade single in my Aeronauts, they are taking 60-70w per coil and thirsty with it. Dual coils take 120w + to get past the ramp up time and then you need good wicking to keep up.

mirror the other replies, you will need a mod that fires low enough and before that you're going to need some decent high discharge 18650s, amp load not mah rating. At least Sony 25rs, ideally VCT4 30A or VCT5 25A.

Can you use a single coil in your atty?
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(07/01/17 03:12 PM)gummy Wrote:  Singly these are probably going to come in at around 0.15-0.20 per coil before you pinch them and rise to around 0.3. So as a pair 0.1ohms or under which would be a problem?
I occasionally use a homemade single in my Aeronauts, they are taking 60-70w per coil and thirsty with it. Dual coils take 120w + to get past the ramp up time and then you need good wicking to keep up.

mirror the other replies, you will need a mod that fires low enough and before that you're going to need some decent high discharge 18650s, amp load not mah rating. At least Sony 25rs, ideally VCT4 30A or VCT5 25A.

Can you use a single coil in your atty?

I was pleased I got the single prebuilt Juggernaut coil firing up well on the Azeroth deck but I must persevere as it vapes a bit horrible at the moment as my wicking skills are awanting Smiling. Also it is not practical to vape like this as the deck is not fully 'sealed' where the other coil and wick would go. Not very aesthetic either but I'm hopefully just in the early stages. Hopefully when I get a good mod, my new VTC5 batts and some more skill in coiling/wicking things may get better. I don't want to vape with this setup regularly but I'd like to be able to do some occasional and enjoyable high watt vaping.
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07/01/17 03:48 PM
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(07/01/17 12:54 PM)MDC Wrote:  
(07/01/17 12:32 PM)Bugsy Wrote:  Aah, get it now, thanks for clarifying. I think I need a more up-to-date mod in anycase so I'll get my research boots on!

The mod must be able to fire the coil, but if you're going high power, make sure you have good, high drain batteries too. What kind of power are you going to be using?

At the moment I don't go higher than 40-45 watts (this is the power?). However if I can get a setup which allows me to occasionally vape at higher watts without any burnt taste / dry hits I'd like that Smiling .
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