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UEL study urgently needs people who vape at high strengths
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UEL study urgently needs people who vape at high strengths
Partcipants are needed for this study at UEL next week. You will be compensated for your time. Please contact them asap if you are interested. You must be accustomed to vaping at 18mg/ml nicotine strength or higher.

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RE: UEL study urgently needs people who vape at high strengths
im 36-50mg on any given day ,but its a hell of a travel for me

vaping is a passion ,not just a hobby,

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RE: UEL study urgently needs people who vape at high strengths
(17/07/15 09:33 PM)jessica Wrote:  Partcipants are needed for this study at UEL next week. You will be compensated for your time. Please contact them asap if you are interested. You must be accustomed to vaping at 18mg/ml nicotine strength or higher.

That rules out most vapers surely? Especially those using more powerful kit. To be honest I am a bit wary of a study that starts with such a selective population unless I have a reason for it.

NB I already applied and have been rejected.

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RE: UEL study urgently needs people who vape at high strengths
(20/07/15 09:12 PM)Richard46 Wrote:  
(17/07/15 09:33 PM)jessica Wrote:  Partcipants are needed for this study at UEL next week. You will be compensated for your time. Please contact them asap if you are interested. You must be accustomed to vaping at 18mg/ml nicotine strength or higher.

That rules out most vapers surely? Especially those using more powerful kit. To be honest I am a bit wary of a study that starts with such a selective population unless I have a reason for it.

NB I already applied and have been rejected.

Of those who have voted here:

http://ukvapers.org/Thread-What-strength...do-you-use

It seems about 25% or so use 18mg+

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To be honest if I had read the selective criteria properly I would not have offered to be involved.

I really would want to know why the population of this research is being limited to high nic ejuice level users.

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RE: UEL study urgently needs people who vape at high strengths
On AAEC someone asked why such high nicotine strengths were necessary - so I asked Dr Dawkins who said (in an email to me) that she will be very happy to answer questions about the rationale for the study - once the study has happened. Please email her then, or PM me and I'll email her. Actually, posting the rationale on this thread would probably be the best idea.

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(20/07/15 09:30 PM)jessica Wrote:  On AAEC someone asked why such high nicotine strengths were necessary - so I asked Dr Dawkins who said (in an email to me) that she will be very happy to answer questions about the rationale for the study - once the study has happened. Please email her then, or PM me and I'll email her. Actually, posting the rationale on this thread would probably be the best idea.

Is that really good enough or ethical? I have doubts frankly.

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(20/07/15 09:32 PM)Richard46 Wrote:  
(20/07/15 09:30 PM)jessica Wrote:  On AAEC someone asked why such high nicotine strengths were necessary - so I asked Dr Dawkins who said (in an email to me) that she will be very happy to answer questions about the rationale for the study - once the study has happened. Please email her then, or PM me and I'll email her. Actually, posting the rationale on this thread would probably be the best idea.

Is that really good enough or ethical? I have doubts frankly.

I've contacted the UEL team with your concerns.

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(20/07/15 09:16 PM)prof beard Wrote:  
(20/07/15 09:12 PM)Richard46 Wrote:  
(17/07/15 09:33 PM)jessica Wrote:  Partcipants are needed for this study at UEL next week. You will be compensated for your time. Please contact them asap if you are interested. You must be accustomed to vaping at 18mg/ml nicotine strength or higher.

That rules out most vapers surely? Especially those using more powerful kit. To be honest I am a bit wary of a study that starts with such a selective population unless I have a reason for it.

NB I already applied and have been rejected.

Of those who have voted here:

http://ukvapers.org/Thread-What-strength...do-you-use

It seems about 25% or so use 18mg+

So the criteria does indeed rule out most vapers on here.

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RE: UEL study urgently needs people who vape at high strengths
Dr Dawkins' previous studies have been inclusive of other devices/strengths etc and there is
a current study which is open to new users and which will monitor their vaping patterns over the
first twelve months of use. Broad studies usually return broad results, but in order to gain a
comprehensive insight into the numerous aspects of Nicotine use/addiction, it is necessary
to also have specialised, focussed studies. Establishing supportive evidence for Dr Farsalinos'
research, and that done by Intellicig five years ago, will hopefully bring a greater understanding
of what we are doing and how it affects us. I also hope that the trials will not just correlate the
figures/levels of Nicotine delivered to the bloodstream, but will begin to examine the threshold
at which Nicotine is significantly effective, the level at which it triggers the brain's receptors to
release Dopamine, which is a key element in addiction/cessation.
Research began scratching the surface some years ago and now it is able to go deeper, but it takes
time, resources, and intention. I can only commend Dr Dawkins' on the effort she is putting into
ecig research, after all, isn't that what so many vapers have been asking/demanding for so long?
You have to be brave to put your head above the parapet in this industry, it has been that way since
the early days, because no matter which side you are on, there will always be someone waiting to
try and shoot you down.
I cannot make it to London for the trials, but I will be communicating extensively with Dr Dawkins
as I fall into the high strength user bracket and am most interested in her research, both as someone
who makes a living from vapers and as a long time vaper myself.

John.

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